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  • andy mcinroy
    Participant

    It’s a tricky one.

    I personally wouldn’t object to anything similar to what I see in the Sunday newspaper supplements. And these can be quite racy at times. Certainly a nipple or two.

    The rules are always going to be open to interpretation. But I’m happy to let our mods make the final sensible say.

    Andy

    Mark
    Keymaster

    I’ll edit the Rules later today in order to try and clarify the Nude rule a bit further.
    It’ll only apply to future posts.

    By the way the David_S post is not showing nipples. This has been confirmed with the photographer himself.

    Thanks
    Mark

    Expresbro
    Participant

    jb7 wrote:

    Expresbro wrote:

    If it’s not to someone’s liking, well, find somewhere where it is.

    Not too difficult to translate that back into the Anglo-Saxon-

    j

    You speak Anglo-Saxon Joseph…? Jaysus…man of more talent than I realised :wink:

    jb7
    Participant

    A lot of people use the old language-
    some of them, every second word-

    j

    stcstc
    Member

    I really dont see what all the fuss is about

    when a place or society has rules, you abide by them, and they are policed or controlled

    I would like to think no of us go shop lifting or speeding particularly, because they break the rules

    in the same way, if the police or control system sets rules, stick to them, whats the problem with that.

    as far as the nude stuff goes, i really struggle to see why people get soooo heated about it. you could be as erotic / suggestive with a model with clothes on as without.

    jb7
    Participant

    stcstc wrote:

    I really dont see what all the fuss is about

    i really struggle to see why people get soooo heated about it

    Have I missed something?

    I don’t see any fuss,
    and as far as I can see,
    nobody has got heated about anything-

    Its just people expressing opinions-

    It seems there has to come a time when somebody enters a discussion
    in order to say that there shouldn’t be a discussion-

    It happens over and over again,
    when a thread gets to be this kinda length-

    It seems that this discussion is gravitating to rule following,
    when it could be so much more interesting-
    a discussion about Art, for example-

    But really,
    have I missed something?

    Where’s the fuss,
    and who has got soooooooo heated?

    j

    PeteTheBloke
    Member

    stcstc wrote:

    I really dont see what all the fuss is about
    when a place or society has rules, you abide by them, and they are policed or controlled
    I would like to think no of us go shop lifting or speeding particularly, because they break the rules
    in the same way, if the police or control system sets rules, stick to them, whats the problem with that.
    as far as the nude stuff goes, i really struggle to see why people get soooo heated about it.
    you could be as erotic / suggestive with a model with clothes on as without.

    There really isn’t a big fuss. There’s a sensible and polite discussion about the rules
    and what they mean.

    Mark has agreed to add some clarification to the rules, as asked, so the original purpose of the thread has been
    fulfilled (and, perhaps, justified).

    I don’t see why people like GerardK should not campaign periodically for the rules to
    be changed, while simultaneously respecting and obeying the rules as they stand.

    stcstc
    Member

    if there isnt a big fuss, why is there this re-active thread.

    it happened a few times.

    this time because of davids post

    i am sure there was one because andy posted about large format or something.

    so if theres no fuss, why even the need for this thread as a re-action to another

    PeteTheBloke
    Member

    stcstc wrote:

    if there isnt a big fuss, why is there this re-active thread.
    it happened a few times.
    this time because of davids post
    i am sure there was one because andy posted about large format or something.
    so if theres no fuss, why even the need for this thread as a re-action to another

    Because it’s against the rules to refer to other people’s posts in the critique forum.
    So I posted here to allow free and fair discussion.

    I don’t want this to sound rude, but if you want to initiate a discussion about
    posts that displease you, I suggest you start another thread under the title,
    “The rights and wrongs of starting threads that displease me”.

    stcstc
    Member

    Pete
    and free and fair discussion is what WE are all trying to have. but this doesnt answer my question about why the re-active post

    As your example of GrahamB was a fine one, why did the discussion not start when that thread happened. why only now.

    I am curious as to why the timing is what it is

    I am not trying to initiate a discussion about posts that displease me in anyway

    Rob
    Member

    jb7 wrote:

    At the risk of incurring the wrath of our arbiters of morals and decency,
    I would like to see more of this sort of thing-

    Not the bad stuff,
    or even the glamour stuff,
    but the Art stuff,
    the kind that Pete the Bloke puts at the peak of artistic endeavour-
    as opposed to the kind that just gives him pique-

    Beautifully written Joseph. And a perfectly sensible suggestion in my
    humble opinion, despite Pete’s dread of those boundaries (subjective
    though they may be) of good taste being overstepped too quickly.

    An interesting thread, with some interesting viewpoints being discussed.
    And not a lot of fuss, until now. Where did that spring from?
    It almost turned into a discussion about Art, which no doubt would have pleased
    Joseph mightily. Perhaps it may yet turn… or perhaps not. We’ll wait and
    see, shall we?

    In the meantime our moderators are feverishly struggling to rewrite the rulebook,
    a half dozen nude pictures spread out before them, a couple of hundred black
    oblongs in a handy box ready to be placed strategically when offending body
    parts are identified and noted. Then the minutes of the meeting will be read,
    discussed, finally agreed, and the rule that states Nude photography is not allowed
    and such posts will be moved
    will be duly appended with appendages and
    whatnots, nipples notwithstanding, deemed to be against said rule.

    And since when did bottoms become offensive. Since that fashion faux pas of
    leggings and leg warmers, everyone and everyone’s brother or sister knows precisely
    what a bottom looks like, not to mention other parts of the body. As we all know,
    anyone seeking visual titillation – regardless of age – can find pornography much faster
    with the television remote control than they ever could with the internet. And there
    is no apparent watershed, curiously enough, on MTV.

    I don’t believe in a free-for-all, and I don’t want to see a glut of tasteless and tacky
    images appearing in the critique forums. Imagine a ‘Readers’ Wives’ Forum. :shock:

    jb7 wrote:

    I don’t think that anyone who is aware of the difference between those Twin Peaks
    should have a problem identifying that type of image,
    or have a problem putting it up here-
    the rules are open to interpretation,
    and Mark’s arbitration on the image that sparked this debate
    should give some indication of what might be acceptable.

    As usual, common sense will prevail,
    and anything that oversteps the mark (sorry Mark) will be taken down-

    Its good to have an inclusive site,
    and I think the members’ collective judgement will prevail-
    as it has done without a problem so far-

    I couldn’t have put it better myself.
    So I didn’t.
    Just felt I should add my thoughts on the matter…

    Rob.

    seanmcfoto
    Member

    Not being pedantic, but just for clarification, when you say “bare breasts”, I’m assuming you mean post puberty female breasts, as distinct from male and childrens breasts?

    Edit: FWIW, this is strictly about having the letter of the law down on this, obviously touchy, subject. No sarcasm intended. I don’t have a particular agenda on this. Solutions that may also work are a private forum group requiring specific application to view. Mark doesn’t want to go down this route. He is perfectly entitled to as this is a private forum that he runs as he sees fit. As would any one of us, if it were our forum. At the end of the day, it’s him that has to listen to the complaints, not us. We may not agree, but we do also have to option to not post, or post other places more appropriate. Lots of us have access to others forums that can be passed on via PM if it’s the case that you are looking to post in an art nude forum.

    gerardk
    Participant

    seanmcfoto wrote:

    Not being pedantic, but just for clarification, when you say “bare breasts”, I’m assuming you mean post puberty female breasts, as distinct from male and childrens breasts?

    I would say so yes – topless male is not a problem and naked underage girls/children are categorically not what is being discussed here.

    Rodcunha
    Participant

    There are easy ways to go around the age problem and the pervert problem.

    Age problem:
    – Password protected area that is only accessible after a payment of 1 Euro is made through credit card (paypal) to Mark’s Account, this is to verify that the user has a credit card therefore is over age. Ok someone might steal the Dad’s CC and buy their entrance to the site claiming they are over age… but well there a lot of free websites out there displaying much more explicit material so why would they bother.

    Pervert Problem
    – This password protected area is only accessible after your post count reaches 100 posts. Again there might be someone with too much time in their hands to actually pay for this and do 100 posts just to see the art nude section…. though I really doubt that it would be that many.

    To all the members that don’t like to see this kind of photography, this area is not even visible, so you only access it if you express your wish to do so.

    Sorry only seen the thread now and I think this measures would help and everyone is happy!
    If not… just blame me!

    Rod

    nfl-fan
    Participant

    bare breasts, genitalia and naked bottoms

    I take it that when on PI Trips that the rules of the site only apply to the site and not the conduct of the members who represent the site on field trips?

    I won’t incur any punishment if I decide to run bolock naked through the hills… which is a real possibilty I might add. Ever see that YouTube clip of the guy that does the funny dance wherever he goes… well, in true nfl tradition I get at least the buns out wherever I go… and given that I don’t have a trusted WX Posse member to accompany me on this outing I will have to entrust another member to produce a photographic record of nfl-butt in the Mournes.

    My naked bottom has appeared on this site on a couple of occasions… and was rejoiced by many…. I mean come on… what a pair of cheeks.

    Besides.. a naked bottom is just 2 rounds of flesh.. I’d be slightly more concerned if what lay between the cracks was on display.. which I can assure any concerned members will not.

    J

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